WoW players are used to knowing from the start what gear they need to chase after. However, this is not the case on WoW Forever. Unlike Classic and Midnight, Blizzard is actively hiding the stats of items from everyone, players and dataminers.
This happens until a player obtains the items, which then reveals them to everyone.
This means that, until players have run dungeons and raids and obtained every single piece of loot, we are physically unable to know everything that exists, leaving every BiS list incomplete at best.
What is Blizzard Doing?
The implication of this is that we still don’t know what item stats are from max-level dungeons or from raids. While we know many of the items likely will be available from these dungeons, most of the information about these items, including their names, is hidden until a player obtains them.
For instance,
Tome of the Lost from Blackrock Spire hasn’t been revealed yet as of today. If you look at its item data, the only information available is that the item is an off-hand item, but everything else is unknown. You can see below the difference between Forever and Classic.

In fact, we don’t even know if it will be called Tome of the Lost, or even exist in Forever, until this reveal happens.
To put it in perspective, for Forever, Blizzard hid a total of 12,871 items. Out of these, 5,009 were revealed throughout beta. Mostly comprising low-level, vendor, and reagent items.
Since Forever launched, another 890 items have been revealed as we’re writing this post, likely many more by the time you’re reading this.
During this first week of Forever, we’re seeing more and more items revealed each day, as shown below.
| Day | Items |
|---|---|
| Nov 4 | 4 |
| Nov 5 | 18 |
| Nov 6 | 141 |
| Nov 7 | 345 |
| Nov 8 | 375 |
Checking Items in Forever
If you’re looking to see the stats for items available in Forever, you can check them out at the Icy-Veins Database, now available in early access for Forever:

